Boomer’s Edit: I moved the edits to a separate post since they seemed off topic. I didn’t write this to argue that this war shouldn’t happen. It’s just something that needs to be recognized. Omega had a great idea today that I want to talk to each major army leader about soon. I’ll be in touch.
Please keep this up for a bit, people need to see it~
I am writing this post in full knowledge that Akabob22, one of Club Penguin armies oldest soldiers, has retired. In his retirement post, he cited examples of just how much things have changed, unfortunately quite for the worse, and I would like to share some of them.
“We [Nachos] went from a great, fun-loving group to competition to see who can get the most people, arguing and having to make up reasons for war along the way.”
“Now, everywhere around us, there is hate. You wake up in the morning sometimes and you try to devise ways to beat an enemy you cannot defeat.”
I think this is the case in almost all armies now. There is no fun left. It’s all about hate. I hate you so I’m going to war, hey I hate you too I’ll help you destroy these guys. Let me say some evil things in a post to make the other side feel like crap. Maybe I’ll hack and delete their site and chat. Wars in Club Penguin we’re supposed to be for fun, but we’ve turned it into a tool for bullying other people. It’s like the classic elementary dodgeball game. “Let’s all gang up on that kid!” Even when there have been wars, they haven’t been fun, otherwise they would have lasted longer than a few days. I’ll use ACP as an example since we’re always the main target of “hate”. Doesn’t it seem like a problem that when one army declares war on another, everyone else goes to war too? A lot of wars used to be private matters, one army versus another so that you could settle some difference or prove you were better. You would say “no allies” because it always interfered with what you were trying to accomplish. It was your war, not theirs, so back off. I have been in ACP for a long time now, but no one has ever given me a good reason for hating ACP. Why are we hating anyone at all is the real question.
“It’s not even really fighting anymore, now that I realize it. Instead of two sides, there are now over 10 in one battle, all fighting for their own cause. Battles now turn out to have people scattered throughout a server, with no one really knowing what to do until a leader gave the order. There are joke bombs, bots, spamming “SEARCH _______!”, but it never ends.”
I was just talking to Luc about how much fun wars used to be when it was a group of your friends, fighting together throwing snowballs. Go to a battle now and tell me how many times someone throws a snowball. You could probably count on one hand. All the spamming turned wars into the biggest n00b fest. You can be winning and losing at the same time. There’s no organization, it’s just people running around looking like idiots saying random stuff. Not to be mean, but when Club Penguin was bought out by Disney, the age of the people using Club Penguin went down. This explains Aka’s point that people will be scattered around a server until someone with some amount of tactical skill can get them together in a group. This used to not be the case. The soldiers were older, and something about the environment of being on Club Penguin constantly gave them a great sense of tactics. I really have no idea if anyone apart from some leaders knows tactics themselves anymore. I can’t look at ACP or any other army and think “that guy/girl is a born leader”. And I don’t just mean THE leader, it could be a Brigadier General or a Colonel. Someone who comes on chat and says “let’s get a patrol together, or let’s do some recruiting”. Who is the next Oagalthorp, Commando717, or Pink Mafias? There’s nobody like that anymore as far as I can see. Go back 2 years ago and there were tons of soldiers like that. The ACP Hall of Fame is full of them. Goozgooz, Gorond, David Shawn, Nrop, Lt Giovanni, Orcacam, Penquin Jim, these guys were leaders. Oagal was a great leader, but he had some of the best Generals helping him. None of our Generals, or any other rank for that matter, can compare to what those guys used to do for ACP. Maybe that’s the problem.
“Hell, even people who you thought were friends turn on you for anything from XAT’s to a higher position in another person’s army. Seriously. What the hell.”
I know, seriously Rap. Did your rebellion make you feel good about yourself yet?
“You can never make people happy in this game unless you promote them. I swear, you can’t. Being a leader is hell.”
What ever happened to pride for your army? I see it all the time in the new recruits, but eventually it goes away. Now, if you don’t get promoted, you throw a tantrum like a 4 year old and leave for another army (preferably one that is an enemy of the one that you left) in an attempt to get revenge because you didn’t get a damn promotion. We want soldiers who are loyal no matter what. If you need a rank and a shiny medal for every little thing you do, you shouldn’t be here. It’s not like that in life, so why should it be so here?
How about some quotes from Bill Gates to prove what I mean.
“Rule 1: Life is not fair…get used to it.
Rule 2: The world won’t care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.”
Back to Aka:
“The other half I’m quitting for is just because I’m really getting bored with all of this.”
Anyone else figure out yet that it’s not the lack of wars that makes it boring, it’s the way in which we go about war. We need to fix the system.
On to my main point, why alliances have ruined Club Penguin armies. Many people place the end of warfare and the beginning of the era of peace around when I joined ACP. Some say it was the idea of “Alliances” that ended this period. Building off of this new idea, Oagal, as great as he was, thought that ANTA, essentially an ultimate alliance of the major armies, was a good idea. The idea never was put into action during his time, but later in 2008, Shadow established it for the first time, once again tying all the major armies in a knot of alliances, and wars were rare. Eventually, ANTA fell, and “The Alliance” took its place. It was started by perhaps Commando or Aka as an “all major armies except ACP” group. So obviously these armies weren’t going to fight each other, they had a common enemy. This is where things started to fall apart in the modern CP warfare era. Thankfully, Person deleted the site (by accident he claims), however alliances formed in this group have still rarely been broken today, and even after ACP was allowed in, there was no real “alliance” between ACP and any of the others.
Because of this, ACP is at the center of almost every single war (I know, you must be jealous), mainly because we never made alliances with the other armies. Those original Alliance armies have to go to war with us because they are in an alliance with all the others, so war amongst them is not an option. Don’t get the wrong idea, I maintained good relations with all the major armies during my time as leader, but I didn’t tie myself down with alliances. The Nachos on the other hand were allies with just about everyone, and couldn’t get involved in anything (unless of course it was against ACP and alliances weren’t in the way). I one time asked Person to back us up against UMA and he said he couldn’t because “The day the Nachos betray UMA is the day Oagalthorp kills Chuck Norris”. Or something ridiculous like that. Jayson, one of the oldest soldiers left in CP armies, had the brilliant idea for the Nachos to go 2 whole weeks without alliances. Just go to war with whoever. Unfortunately it only lasted about 2 days.
Again recently, we were questioning why the Nachos had declared war on ACP for not having elections (I could have sworn the Nachos agreed a while back that too much government ruined armies, so why go to war asking for more government…) when there were plenty of other un-democratic armies, specifically IW, who hasn’t elected (or even had) a new leader other than Icey in its almost 2 year existance. The reason was very simple. “They are one of our best allies.” Anyone see the problem yet? IW and the Nachos are pretty evenly matched, yet we’ll never see a war between them because of alliances. We’ll never see the Nachos fight UMA, we’ll probably never see WW fight RPF. With all these alliances in place, it’s no wonder ACP is the only one anyone goes to war on. These alliances are blocking EVERYTHING. If you thought I was a bad leader because we didn’t go to war enough, think of what I had to face. If I so much as thought about invading another army’s server, 3 other armies already had posts up about war with ACP. A while back ACP went to war with RPF because they were trying to hack us. Seems like a good reason to go to war with someone, right? Because of alliances, not even something as bad as hacking could separate them, and all the other major armies rushed to help RPF because ACP was the only army they were allowed to fight. I want to see a major war that’s balanced again. I want a FW, WW, RPF, BP vs. UMA, IW, ST, DW war. I want to see IW and FW have a war to see who is really the third largest army. That’s what armies used to be like. There used to be 5+ armies on a server just fighting. Who cares about the politics, the motive, the reason for war. Just go out there and fight, for fun. Someone invade another army’s server for no reason and see what happens. But as long as we keep to alliances, that will never happen. Why are armies falling? No real wars. Why are there no real wars? Alliances. That’s your answer.
~Boomer
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wow great post boomah
first
1st comment and this is all true
Boomer is the wisest one of us all.
5th
Oh tell meh about it.You and me have almost the exact same mind.Which is scary. 0_o but ya cp wars arnt fun anymore.And if you notice most peole quit cause its boring.
What happened to the good ol dyays when mammoth was acp’s capitail?When oagal was leading?Those were the good days.I sure miss em.
5th and houndy is right young sun
why do u guys always back away
were battling to have fun yo
People might think its like a real war just bcuz aka and linkin retired but at the end they realize its just a match to enjoy
3rd Coment and Boomer is completely right.
5th, Alliance have screwed up CP. I agree, however Politicts have screwed it up more. Ive been in the color wars, dojo wars, any war imaginable. I’d run into some rouges (armies without site/chat etc.) No one would say “im president!” or “vote for Lsund for president in cp!!!!” they would say “attack!” “throw more snowballs!” and “youre not the leader, I am!” Now we get in the way with diplomatic things and congress all that crap. WHy are we doing this??? I DONT SEE THE POINT IN CP POLITICS!!!! Look at America. Barack Obama and the Democrat senators are screweing things up (not to mention some REPUBLICAN Senators like Lindsey Grahm) DO we want this to happen to our armies? I say we could keep a few alliances but completly do away with polictics.
~Lsund
All of this is very true, I’d LOVE to see more wars 😀
~PinkGirl1114
wow Boomer you hit point!On a retirmet post somoene said that the only way to get near the golden ages of cp warfare was to declare war on any army.who cares if you get pawned?
vio789
Great post Boomer!
Everyone says they know what the problem is of why were not having fun. People say alliances, no war, were getting older, Disney, etc. Well if we know there’s a problem then STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!
Boomer: I already knew there was a problem and ACP did something a while ago, but no one else really has yet.
On warfare,if there are enemies,there has to be allies.But not allies forever,it takes too much fun.
the reason armys all are falling is because i know so many people that have asked to join and no reply also people in club penguin would rather do crush parties which are rubbish, maybe u should have more events like traning days, more events, and when you have elections have them at a igloo, so many things that u could do to advertise, also they have always been real wars for decades and know suddenly UMA,Nachos,IW,WW etc are all ganging up to confirm war on us because we have the largest army.
I agree. This isnt what I wanted this army to be like! When I joined (which was three days ago fyi,) I thought armies would be for fun, to get some action in life. Now, all of the alliances made it so club penguin’s tiny snowballs can kill. I really agree with this post.
~mrwens
Boomer I always thought about this, but I never had the gut to go through with it…. now that I see the fate of CP warfare hanging by a thread, I realise…. ITS TIME TO TAKE ACTION!
Am I on the black list?
boomer ur right i would love to see fw ww rpf bp vs iw dw uma and st =)
Big post for a big point, club penguin armies have now turned into xat armies because thats what I have been on mostly is xat not cp.
It use to be a chat full of club penguin talk and orders of battle. Now that times have changed, the chat is mostly people breaking the rules(even mods), a lot of talk about things other then armies, and now xat powers is king like the king cotton of the south. This problem cannot be changed until everyone sees whats going on.
Also after 4 new leaders, we still have a problem with ACP and what we use to call “allies”. No one has yet to see why this happened and you can look by going back to older posts in oagal’s and fort’s time.
And boomer is right about us, generals. We may think we are doing a great job right now but really we have become lazy. We cannot leave everything up to the ranks above owner line. In the US army, a general is at the top. In ACP, a general use to be at the top, but now we have thought of it as the rank right below the owner line.
And last but not least, where has cp gone? For the older acp, do you remember all these parties and meetings on club penguin. Remember when TomY even made a Acp Hq in his igloo I believe. We would think that is what n00bs do now but Acp use to do it. Guys if you ever go on mammoth, go to where these acp are. They are the real Acp. They go on cp probably everyday and they fight in acp uniform and keep fighting until a battle is won. Now back then thats what Acp did. They would go on clubpenguin whenever and go to mammoth and get in uniform and fight. We actually make fun of the old acp then.
Since boomer brought this up, i dont know about you guys, but im an Acp general and I will now start going to Mammoth to join these soldiers of honor.
Over & Out
boomer i think that was amazing
you’re right boomer. War is pointless now. We need to change some things…
boomer saweet post!!!!! it was tottally awesome and i think we are all glad that you haven’t gone from acp all the way!
Rock on acp!
Boomer all that stuff is true I joined acp to have fun in wars I could care less what rank I am. There should be a war that is every army for themselves, no alliances, just for fun.
Flip223
im in the nachos but i just want to say that i respect everything you just said because you are right.
did my comment before ever show up?
i agree boomer i agree 😉
we shold have more wars for fun
I see….
i want a war like when we fought the UMA with Oagal.In the ACP Saga that war sonds like more fun then the wars we have these day.I bet i would take a demotion for a war like that again…
Know Why i`m The “Acp Comedian” To Keep People Happy And Keep Humor in The Cp Warfare..
It’s all true. I blew up the other day when I heard about the Nachos declaring war on us. I’m so, so sick of people hating us. And I’m so tired of being hated. And I want it to stop.
So how do we fix it? Elect new leaders? What? Cmon dudes, I’m the bad one, you’ve said it yourselves, I don’t know a thing about leading. You tell me what to do, and just consider it done.
Well I gotta go meet Cas on Runescape now, so I gotta shut up…
-Fox
I do not agree with you Boomer. Alliances are what keep armies together and be friends. When you have wars everyone hates eashother, and what happens when you lose a war? You lose all your troops you worked so hard for. For example, if FW and IW had a war and FW were to lose, IW would have gained lots of FW’s troops and FW would have to rebuild and it screws up FW. So you want to bring back the Golden ages? Alliances were in the Golden Ages. Also you want to “Black Out” the invasion of Breeze. ACP has to fight. Just because its the “Official army Of ClubPenguin” doesnt mean they can back out (that point was made by Dan) ACP is the same and equal to any other army just because your name doesn’t mean you can always win. You won’t.
Hey boomer! Heres what i have to say about this sentence……”There’s no organization, it’s just people running around looking like idiots saying random stuff.” This might be because of the large armies, but i think its mainly because of………..our new tactic. Ive read the ACP saga and while we were at war with UMA(or something) we changed from being formal and having one side too really just being scattered around everywhere. I think we should bring back the formal style of cp warfare or we will be random idiots running around everywhere for the rest of our lives. I say BRING BACK THE FORMAL CP WARFARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boomer Ur wrong… Your saying tht in the Golden ages there wasnt alliance? well there was.Remember the Warriors Alliance back in the Golden ages of Club Penguin Armies that had Watex Warriors anyother warrior army
Um
ya know…… i can see that alliences arent good. look at this. its like a chain. theres two different chains, but one of them pulls(attacks)it and that chain and everyone connected will be pulled. See
Boomer your wrong…you said that alliances werent in the Golden Ages? Incorrect.Remember the Warriors Alliance that had Watex Warriors and any other Warrior Army Back then
Maybe If People Cared….. There Would be Fun.
Well if we fight the nachos we would be worn out!
I saw this a loooong time ago; its one of the reasons that I retired when I did.
http://maxthepenclubpenguinarmynews.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/what-happened/
^^^Please Read it^^^^^
Also
@titanic95594: Titanic, who cares? As long as we have fun we should fight em.
Booker, I agree with you to the fullest. There’s just one other semi-problem. The reason there are so many alliances is because the major armies are srmetting examples for noobs by making allliances. In hopes of becoming allies an making alliances like these major armies, they create their own armies, and make even more alliances between small armies. Then, these alliances cause their enemies to make their alliances, and then both alliances make even bogey superalliancea. The real answer is to have a leader who isn’t afraid of leaving, or declaring war on someone in the same alliance.
Agreed with Houndy.
-Lt. Tobymac96
So, there we go, someone who gets the message.
Boomer you are probably the best person I will ever meet. I agree with you 100%! Alliances are important, but they don’t always need your back. Let’s try at least try to get back to the good old days.
P.S. I’m not one of those baby’s who whine if I don’t get a promotion. I’m loyal to ACP and always will be.
i joined these armys just befor this started. i thought this would be fun always but it turned out i would see arguments. I wish i couldve experince the golden ages of CP war fair.
Hmm, seems like my original comment isnt showing up. I will type it again, I guess.
Boomer, great post. I would like to take an in depth look at this. Lets look at a perfect example of how Alliances could have defeated entire armies.
Last Summer, when the power struggle for ACP was in full swing, I made a huge alliance with nearly every major army on CP at the time, and we all attacked ACP. It was the perfect time to strike due to the fact that ACP was not prepared. The alliance today continues with the Tundra alliance between RPF and WW.
I am ashamed to say that I nearly led to the downfall of ACP last summer HAD NOT Kg come in and assume command after the power struggle was in its final moments.
I am proud to say however, that WW was never in an alliance untill I retired, where they considered merging with Nachos. They were offered a place in a Warrior alliance with IW and a couple of others but we never were involved. In the meantime, Nachos were building an alliance with nearly every major alliance EXCEPT for ACP called the CPA or whatever. This probably paved the way for smaller, or the more newer armies such as DW, FW and BP to come in and show the world what they had. Meanwhile, UMA was in tough shape and needed an ally, so they sided with the Nachos.
New organizations such as NGA have distracted large armies to ignore smaller ones, which is why we see big armies getting attacked by smaller ones on their own servers. NGA is the first organization of its kind, and its likely we wont see one again.
Due to my long hiatus from last summer, I did not see a lot of things happening, and it is likely many alliances and armies were created in that time period. I also missed probably the most controversial issue this year thus far, the overtaking of the ACP leadership heirarchy by younger, arguably younger and less experienced soldiers.
I hope i cleared things up for people.
Every one is right! people arnt happy in less they get promos! i have seen all my army friends leave! you know why! they are getting spam and i bet being leader is crap! i wish we could bring back the good days of cp where a war was a war!i promised i wold be loyal to the ACP you know what i stuck to that promise! now nub armies are running around cp claiming servers and declaring war on an army 10x their size! and thinking their leader will guid them to victory! yes i am getting off subject. but Cp was fine the way it was then disney came along and bought it for only 10 grand! if i was going to sell it i would put it up for atleast 20 to 30 grand! now disney has made it a crappy place where we can hardly say anything any more! we should really either make a bill where no more noob armies are made in less we no they will sucseed! or we put a patroll out there and get rid of the noob armies who roam CP and just cause annoyance! median armies can stay but no small armies major and median only! and we should break up some alliances some how and then isolate them!
Ok maxpen we are not sure if we should go to war with nachos.
Again, Boomer hits the nail right on the head. Imagine how fun it would be to just have a war to have a war with out the flaming and facing every army known to man. We could build up armies fast if we lose the hate, the spamming and get back to throwing snowballs. Who cares who wins? Why does anyone have to win? Lets just battle and loose the joke / spam bombs and toss a few snowballs again.
I agree with Boomer.We should go back to how it was the good old days.
dryvits right spam bombs mess up computers and this just for fun just throw some snowballs its gets really frustrating having ten armies swarm us when we try to have a practice battle
Great post Boomer, I agree entriely.
same here boomer is always right hes like the yoda of ACP
Reply to Shab’s edit:
Yes shab mostly all armies always gain up on ACP. But you have to asume their doing it cause ACP is a world power army. FW Is going to invade IW’S server and so FW will not accept any allies in the upcoming possible war.
there are 2 problems, allies and aka.
since aka wants war so badly and everyone hated aka they didnt have wars a often
You’re exactly right, Saint. Bring it on, people 😀
Great Post. I knew all of this was happening, it’s just that I couldn’t say anything because I didn’t have a big say in this army before. Thanks for figuring it out boomer,
P.S. I would like to post this post on my site, if it’s ok with you.
http://rebelpenguinforce.wordpress.com/
wow, GREAT post boomer its all so true.
True DAT.
Saint, you are the only person that I agree with! That was a great post! I believe that if an army is going to attack us we fight back and protect club penguin…not just ignore them. Allies are just as good the army. If the army is having trouble the ally can help find a good solution to that conflict. If the ally is causing problems, then just tell them the war is to have fun and not to be rude. We are in the game to play it! Not to be insulted or insult others. Just a kind lesson. Treat others the way you want to be treated!
If others want war let them have it! When you have free time and are away from the computer…jot down some ideas for a plan. That is what makes up a good army. It is not how many people are in them…it is the organizing the patients and many other traites. But don’t take a challenge you are not prepared for.
GOOD JOB ACP!
-YDCP (Yellow Defenders of Club Penguin) Leader
Cheesepie763.
http://yellowdefendersofclubpenguin.wordpress.com
P.S. Hopefully I am staying on subject! Lol. : ?
but who makes alliances the goverment and i dont know why every blooming army hates us so much what have we ever done? mybe its like the romes everywon wanted to defeat them i hope we dont end up like the romes.but when i was in st cp clones and other armys i was always trying to get the leaders to attack acp i regret i now
WARNING!
This is an important message saying acp is under attack by chicken army and sf army!
Go to Applewoods igloo and fight for mammoth!
this is a message to all ACP!
All truth. The greateth post wizard returns!
Exactly. It’s good to have allues and be friends with your allies, but for allies, they should not get into the war. As a n00b, I don’t remember seeing any army fighting (ACP, Nachos, UMA, etc) as a team. I see them fighting everyone, anything that is not their army. Now, it’s like 3 armies in different colors as a team facing 1, 2, OR 3 armies It makes it not fun. In my n00b army with Blueswill I remember all the battles when we declared war on other small army “Kind Of Battle: No allies” or “Kind Of Battle: 1 allie”
Now, as I said before one army declares war and every army allies declaring war help them, and either if the other army is just as big they may be crushed with size and different army tactics.
Don’t have allies unless agreed,”
-Thomas0270, ACP General.
gah I find this a pointless post Boomer. And besides your not leader anymore. why do you act like it?
hey boomer your not the yoda of cp cmon okay okay
yoda thats so funny
im on all of the thingys woop woo[p
Boomer is right.
Saint is right. (Post underneath)
The Great Confusion was the best time for ACP ever!
I remember it well.
I was leading (Boomer was gone), we evacuated to the old congress chat, and I made Saint my 2ic temporarly.
Sure, some n00bs were being idiotic over promotions, but for the whole part. . .
ACP stuck together.
It was the best time ever.
I don’t think any of the next generation will get to experience it again.
Even Order 67.
That wasn’t good for small armies, but it was totally kick***.
You know, it shows your dedication, if you get passed up for a promotion and stay commited.
Leaving does not help.
You are free to join any other armies, but unless you demonstrate true loyalty, your chances of recieving a promotion are unlikely.
IMO
Best three words ever. . .
Spoken by THE M.V.P. (I mean THE…….)
(You also don’t know about whom I’m talking about probably either but, anyways. . . )
SUCK IT UP!
’nuff said.
~Jedimaster17
Ret. ACP President
ok, a few things to say here. the way i see it, there are only two things that make soldiers happy: wars and promotions. because how do you think those hundreds of soldiers had the time of their life in the oagalthorp era, myself included, when there were only promotions on the rarest of occasions? it was more like you got ranked and then that was it. virtually no promotions. we can’t replace the fun of war with promotions! it’s just lousy. soldiers rise through the ranks in virtually no time, but do they REALLY have good leadership skills? not really. not compared to the most legendary legends of all legends. just because you’re obsessed with ACP, it doesn’t mean you have the skills to motivate your soldiers to win.
and there’s also another problem. I have no DESIRE to fight in these few wars. the fact is, in the oagalthorp era, oagalthorp would always make a big deal out of something small. why? that gave us drive to fight the enemy. in THAT time, wars weren’t quite for no reason. someone just had to find a good reason whenever they wanted a war. and that someone was oagalthorp, of course. if another army ever did something wrong, then action had to be taken.
but what the heck are we doing now? “practice wars” are just plain boring for me. the fun of cp wars isn’t in every time you throw a snowball. (Tomtwelve pressed the T key. “Ohhhhhh boooooy!” He moved the target to his enemy and clicked. “YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!” Tomtwelve pressed the T key. “Ohhhhhh boooooy!” He moved the target to his enemy and clicked. “YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!”) charges aren’t even fun anymore! and i blame the nachos for that. their recent tactics have been just charging every single moment of a battle. no one is going to win THAT way. it’s just a tedious time where we keep moving, and they keep charging.
what i really mean to say there is i need some sort of motivation for why the heck i’ll come to a battle. A MOTIVATION BESIDES THE CHANCE OF A PROMOTION. i honestly think that a leader who can write amazing posts can do this.
and you know, when i was a noob during WWIII, i thought UMA was evil. i mean, i think the noobs ought to think of the enemy as their TRUE ENEMY.
i’m finding it hard to organize my thoughts here. but hopefully i got a few good ideas in there.
I QUIT THE ACP!!!!!!
Dont ask for me back.
I wont turn around.
Meanies…
the true best time evuh…was WWIII.
To keep everyone happy, we give off promotions way too easily. Back, when I first saw the ACP site, there were only a few high ranks: Commander General (Oagal), General, Commander. That’s it. Not like how much we have today. Promotions were rare, and weren’t given out during set days. You stayed in your army for fun, and pride. Not because you could look down at everyone in chat.
One point I beg to differ though – hate (true hate) is something that motivates armies to spend copious amounts of effort attempting to win a war. Pink Mafias hated Oagal, Oagal wanted to rid CP of hackers – End result? We ended up with an epic WWIII. Akabob hated Oagal, Oagal hated Aka – another epic dispute. However, the hate now, is not true hate, or hate on a personal level. People still say stuff like ‘[insert army here] sucks!’ but they don’t hate members of another army, and obviously, they don’t hate them enough to fight until one side surrenders or starts going into a decline.
People chose sides in war. Back in Oagal’s time, if you were in ACP, that’s it. If you were part of another army, there wasn’t much chance you would get a good rank. You didn’t say, ‘Oh, I’m part of Army A, but my friends are in Army B, so I won’t fight.’ You picked one side and stayed for months. You had pride. Being a mod rank wasn’t seen so highly. Having to be a member of a chat to see it is new, half the people on an army’s chat would have been guests, a year ago.
Age is an important factor as well. Back in the ‘good old days’, people were in upper primary / junior secondary. Now, I think the balance has been severely toppled over to the former. Take RPF – they were a bunch of people who were proud of their maturity, and age. Now, I can’t really say the same thing about the latter. ACP has came out by far the worst: I can barely come onto the comments and read some, without instantly thinking: ‘8 year olds…’
Eventually, people started taking nations way too seriously. It was, at first, to give each army some land to invade: So that you could gain something other than pride for your army for winning a war. Then, people decided that they needed a congress with 10 people, a senate with another, a whole long document which describes a government, which was never really the point of nations in the first place.
Although it seems hard to believe now, there was a time where people acted with intelligence, and had fun. Now, CP armies have degraded further and further…
Exactly. To keep everyone happy, we give off promotions way too easily. Back, when I first saw the ACP site, there were only a few high ranks: Commander General (Oagal), General, Commander. That’s it. Not like how much we have today. Promotions were rare, and weren’t given out during set days. You stayed in your army for fun, and pride. Not because you could look down at everyone in chat.
One point I beg to differ though – hate (true hate) is something that motivates armies to spend copious amounts of effort attempting to win a war. P i n k M a f i a s hated Oagal, Oagal wanted to rid CP of hackers – End result? We ended up with an epic WWIII. Aka hated Oagal, Oagal hated Aka – another epic dispute. However, the hate now, is not true hate, or hate on a personal level. People still say stuff like ‘[insert army here] [insert insults here]!’ but they don’t hate members of another army, and obviously, they don’t hate them enough to fight until one side surrenders or starts going into a decline.
People chose sides in war. Back in Oagal’s time, if you were in ACP, that’s it. If you were part of another army, there wasn’t much chance you would get a good rank. You didn’t say, ‘Oh, I’m part of Army A, but my friends are in Army B, so I won’t fight.’ You picked one side and stayed for months. You had pride. Being a mod rank wasn’t seen so highly. Having to be a member of a chat to see it is new, half the people on an army’s chat would have been guests, a year ago.
Age is an important factor as well. Back in the ‘good old days’, people were in upper primary / junior secondary. Now, I think the balance has been severely toppled over to the former. Take RPF – they were a bunch of people who were proud of their maturity, and age. Now, I can’t really say the same thing about the latter. ACP has came out by far the worst: I can barely come onto the comments and read some, without instantly thinking: ‘8 year olds…’
Eventually, people started taking nations way too seriously. It was, at first, to give each army some land to invade: So that you could gain something other than pride for your army for winning a war. Then, people decided that they needed a congress with 10 people, a senate with another, a whole long document which describes a government, which was never really the point of nations in the first place.
Although it seems hard to believe now, there was a time where people acted with intelligence, and had fun. Now, CP armies have degraded further and further…
Note 1: Whoops, sorry for being so long-winded.
Note 2: What word is preventing this from going through the filter?
when im bored i go to mammoth,dress up in Acp clothes, and attack the ninjas. And they never fight back. Also, when i go to blizzard to disguise as a nacho for no apperent reason, no nachos are even there!! i never find any army doing anything unless theres like a battle or something. I never find anybody recruiting or patrolling like we do. Im not saying that other armies are lazy, im just sayin they should go on cp or else no one will join their armies and they will eventually get smaller and smaller.
I believe that wars have been more into fighting and not just “Hey lets get together and have a snowball fight against blah and blah!” …. I say that things have gotten less fun for just fighting, arguing, and now the walruses have made it even worse….[bots]
Thing is, why not start a “group” not an army… that doesn’t fight… has fun… Tells other people that attack them to stop fighing for no flippin’ reason! I say this mainly,
1. Make something that is fun and not boring.
2.Make something that stands for no fighting.
3.Make something that keeps peace.
~ And new type of nation, and not a military one
~ Real Punk… A Nacho
Hate the comment, or think its lame, or maybe AGREE.
( I really don’t mind what people say though :/ )
exactly people act like make alliances will help them when there are wars the armies sites get tons of hits and the army gets a ton of recruits.
you know, in the history of cp armies, leaders have added elements from real armies to the cp armies. alliances are definitely a part of real armies. and an army protects a territory, which is why we have servers.
anyway, extreme is pretty right. though i’m not sure that every soldier of the ACP has been fueled by hatred in our history. but what was it that drove one to fight in WWIII to the end?
heck. i could write a whole philosophy book on cp armies.
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why are alliances bad exactly? tomtwelve is right they are in real armies and these are basically real except for the fact they are virtual just you haven’t explained why they are bad
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