Army of Club Penguin

Solraida: How about no one gets involved in this at all because sharing your opinions on it will surely keep the fire going and some of you need to seriously grow up and forget about it once and for all.

Saint: This fight is getting us nowhere. This will continue, and every day it will get worse. So i have choosen two things that we could do in order to sort threw this mess.

1. We can move on with our lives, and forget this ever happened.

2. Shab and Aber take a break for a while (like i did) and return when the grudge is gone.

Now i would pick option 1. We are able of forgiving and forgetting. Human nature is to continue to hate until the other gives in.  Instead of our hate we need to just stop talking about the argument. Eventually it will fade away. Now you all may think, but Shab was wrong or Aber shouldnt have done that and this would have never happened. Yes that’s true, but again, aren’t we all human? We go day to day in school or in life passing the same people everyday. Some people you may hate but do you remember why? What had that person done to you that you might have even done to another person. Why should you continue on the hate, which brings you nowhere, when instead you could forgive and forget and give yourself some peace of mind. Now I ask all of you to forget about this, forgive those who caused it, and move on because in the end we know it is the right thing to do.

Shab: Well it seems like its not all over. Aber is now blaming me for anything she is doing. Being stricter. Whose fault? Shabs according to her. I dont remeber telling or suggesting she should be stricter. This isn’t over till Aber realizes she can’t make me the scapegoat for everything.

So no, I’m not gonna appologize anymore. I’m actually taking back my appology just because of seeing what Aber said on chat, blaming me becuase shes basically gonna be a tight @$$ for now on with the rules.

Note: This was written by Stev, and is about as true as it gets.  Make sure to read my addition at the end.

Ok, today was one hell of a day for ACP. Shab and Aber argue, others start to argue. So, I’m here writing this, because it is something we can all reflect on. Now, our chat is becoming one hell of a problem. Every single minute we have an arguement on chat. If it’s not the members, its the moderators, if it’s not the monderators, it’s the owners, If it’s not the owners, it’s everybody on chat. Today almost half the people on chat were saying that ACP is going to fall because of all this arguing. I agree. ACP is going to fall. Sooner or later, ACP is going to fall. When it does, you know what’s going to happen? Your going to go looking for someone else to blame it on. Your going to blame it on a person, on an army. But you know the person that is really responsible for the fall of ACP? It’s YOU. YOUare the reason ACP will fall. You, and me are the reason ACP is falling. Like it or not, that’s the real truth. We have rules on chat, what good are those rules, when nobody follows them? Other Armies critisize us, and we ask ourselves why? You want to know why? Because we are corrupt. We are becoming the most corrupt army out there. Believe it or not. That’s the truth. We ask ourselves why we are insuled by others. We are proving all those people that say bad things about us, right.We are all guilty of what’s wrong in ACP. For ACP to function well, you need co-operation [Boomer: Sound familiar?]**. An army that works together, wins together. But unfortunately, our co-operation is something that needs some working. Im not saying this to lash out at Aber, Shab, Fort and Boomer. Im directing this to everyone that goes to our chat. Half of the mods on chat are crooked. The other half hardly give a damn about what’s going on. Now, let me get on with the fight between Aber, Shab, and Fort. Ok, you 3 are all guilty. Sure, go ahead, argue about why your right and why the other is wrong. None of you are correct, and none of you are wrong. You are all guilty. What one man starts, another finishes. It shouldnt be What one man starts, the other continues. Let me tell you 3 what I think of you.

Shaboomboom– You need to work on ending a fight. When you start a fight, you continue it, because you can’t admit when your wrong. It’s ok to give your side of a story, but that should be it. Don’t continue it.

Aber-Aber, I am pretty sure that you are either going to ignore this, or that you are going to tell me on how it’s wrong. Well, aber, it’s good that you don’t continue fights. But, you also need to learn to explain instead of leaving chat saying” I dont care anymore, Im tired of you people, BYE”. Do you really think that that’s a good approach? Your just running away from having to give an explanation. You said that you don’t need to explain everything you do. I understand that, but in this case, you do need to explain. Because you can’t just complain about something and not explain why. Also, I know your going to get mad at me for saying this, but you need to stop taking Fort’s side on everything. Aber, I know your going to deny it. But I know it, Shab knows it, everyone else knows it. That you always Take Fort’s side.

Fort-Fort, your a good friend and all, but you can get a bit aggressive sometimes. I mean, the way you treated thomas was more than what thomas did. It’s ok to punish someone for being rude, but not to take it too far. Self-Control is a good key in life.

Now, Im proposing a time off from chat for everyone, because obviously we all need a break from chat. Also, I propose that Boomer makes a page, in which everyone can write about what they think of one another and the other person can do the same in comments. We don’t need to take this to chat. Why do you prefer to do this on main? Do it on PC, or go to another chat. But stop bringing it to main chat. When you bring it to main chat, your just doing it for attention, and nobosy likes it when you do that. So STOP. Everyone just stop. Weve had people try to kill themselves in real life because of what is being said on chat. This needs to stop. I dont know what to do anymore. You guys just dont give a damn. Just STOP. STOP. STOP.I just dont know anymore

~Stev712

**Boomer: The following is taken directly from a post about co-operation I wrote all the way back in October ’08, but you’ll find it still very much relevant in this case.

Co-operation – n. – an act or instance of working or acting together for a common purpose or benefit; joint action

The key to a successful army is co-operation.  I’m sure an sensible army leader can agree with that.  Unfortunately, I have not seen a whole lot of this “co-operation” so far.  Co-operation involves “acting together for a common purpose or benefit.”  Ok, so we are working towards making ACP a better army.  This is impossible if we continue to have dissenting perspectives.  While I explain my point, I would like to clarify a few things.

In summary, we all need to work together to assure that ACP remains the army it was, is, and should always be.  For those of you who think that getting rid of Shab would make ACP better need to realize something.  Rebellion almost destroyed ACP once a few months back.  It was split right down the middle – those loyal to Oagalthorp, and those who wanted a new regime.  Since then we have worked to put ACP back together, mending it as best we could.  Frankly, it looks alright on the outside, but as you can see from recent disputes, it is far from fixed.  I am asking you, ACP, for your patience, because ACP cannot afford another disagreement like the one over the leader situation a few months ago.  With a little co-operation from everyone, we can restore the Army of Club Penguin to what it was, rightfully what it should be.

~Boomer 20

October 29, 2008

At this point, I’m sick of arguing, because we really aren’t arguing about anything, just a typical confrontation on chat.  Apologies are in order.  Shab, apologize to Fort for telling him to leave, and to Aber for the extent this confrontation has reached.  Fort, apologize to Thomas for your controntation with him.  Thomas, apologize to Aber for your “joke”.  If you are an editor, add it to the end of this post.  If you are not, apologize in a comment, and I will add it to this post.  I hate to play the parent forcing the apologies out of their children, but that’s what it has come down to, because none of you seem to be capable of ending an argument.  Forgive and forget, and we shall move on.

~Boomer

Shab: Well I didn’t tell Fort to leave, he said it first and I just told him “fine leave.” But I did have a part in the extent to which this went to. I made the post before to try to find out what part of the story I was missing. What happened instead was lots of arguing. I’m sry Aber for this mess but I still think that proposing a vote for impeachment was going a little too far.

Saint: i dont think that helped very much shab 8O. Even though i wasnt part of the Aber vs Shab argument im going to make my own apology to the people of ACP chat. I’m sorry if i have been rude or mean to you, it just gets a little annoying when asked the same question over and over again. If i was mean, I was probably taking some other thing i was irate about out on you. Also to the future, If i am ever rude or mean to you i’ll try to correct myself ASAP and learn from my mistakes. I was absent from chat most of Tuesday-Thursday and part of Friday and it really helped me control my temper on chat. Sometimes all we need is a break. Also Boomer, check your e-mail.

Aber: Well, I’m sorry for whatever I did. I purposly tried to stop it today for all of our sakes. Didn’t work out. Also for Stev’s post, Thomas and I were arguing way long before Fort got home from lacrosse, so me taking forts side has nothing to do with it. And I didn’t start the arguement, nor post a post for the whole ACP to see. But for any further arguments, I take responsiblity for what I said to Shab, even though what he said wasn’t right either. And Hopefully in the future, everyone learns not to get into others business without knowning the full content of the story…

Also, I never disbanned the Congress, so i’m not sure where you all got that lol.

Thomas: I truthfully did not mean to hurt feelings. Me and my third grade friends make dog jokes all the time and it is funny. I understand it is not funny and will be mature and act like a 15 year old in ACP. I am sorry please forgive. God wants us all to forgive. No more 9 year old jokes.

Boomer: Shab… xD

Thanks for the apologies thus far.  Sometimes you gotta know when to quit.  You’re better off losing than battle than losing the war.  In this case, sometimes you just stop arguing for the sake of ending the argument.  Had someone done that sooner, this wouldn’t have become such a big issue in which case, everyone loses.  Just remember this started as a joke, yes an inappropriate one, but a joke nonetheless.  Suddenly it has become an enormous issue, which reminds you what arguing can do to a simple situation.  Looks to me like we are ready to drop all this, which is a good sign.  I hope you are all looking forward to our battle tomorrow with RPF.  Time to put all this behind us.

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