Jedimaster17: You know, what strikes me is the blant hypocrisy of the situation. Everyone despised the SSACP, (and I didn’t support them either), for trying to take back a historic server, but hey, when Nachos want to take back a server that’s claimed, by a smaller army, who has strong grounds for belonging there, morally, I’d go with the smaller army. I’d happily bet that everyone would turn against the ACP, if we’d try anything similar, (not that we would), we’d get blasted. No, we don’t support this because we don’t want Nachos to have more servers, they have a perfectly legitamate right, its that the server was already claimed, and I, personally would like Nachos to remain our allies, and I agree with Boomers neutrality policy. I understand the Nachos land grant idea, and perhaps that’d work out, I’ve not enough info upon this to give judgement. I suggest that the MCP and Nachos have a meeting.
Boomer: I agree, people do like wars, but based on the fact that Person and probably all the Nachos are mad at me for standing up for a small army, I don’t want to start a war over this. That is why I am trying to get this settled without a war, because although war is fun, prolonged war only makes doing the simplest things in an army difficult because there is no time for anything else. There is still a bunch of stuff we need to get going, starting with the Brigades and Flag Contest, that we wouldn’t be able to do with a war on our hands. Not to mention that the Nachos are our allies, and I would prefer to keep it that way.
Shab: I don’t care if MCP gets their server back or not. I guess my reason for war is to have fun without scheduling and stuff. Whoever wins the most wars in 1 month wins. Battles aren’t scheduled but only count when there is enought soldiers at the battle that would count as a small army (about 10 or 15 soldiers atleast).
Aber: Go ahead, go to war, but i am not going to. Acp has no right to interfer with every war that comes up. And if this causes war with nachos? Don’t blame me and the ppl who support me.
Shab: What happened to the days of the 3 month wars for no reason, the random alliances, the fun? Now its all about server limits and gov jobs that do nothing. Its a game, live a little. When oagal and zippy and pink/comp left their successors were more conservative. It got worse when uma and acp stopped fighting and rpf fell. You guys said you hated that while I was leader I declared war more easily than most leader but I bet you secretly loved the chance for war.
I joined Acp in Jan of 08. Until march Acp was in war against Uma. Every day we fought, learning tactics from different people, having fun, and not needing practice wars or even scheduled wars. I support a war against nachos not to give mcp their server but show that we don’t need governments for cp armies and we don’t need reasons to have fun. I bet the gov page jedi set up was more work than it was actually worth.
If you wanna have fun pick an army and go to war with them for a month with no scheduled battles. Try to pick an army equal to your size and don’t make it easy by ganging up on an army. Forget these crap ideas like “fun war for the hippies” and just have fun.
Rapidy: My username on ACP chat is ░▒▓Rapidy▓▒░.
Boomer: I know this is really long, and I just want to say one thing. Person, the Nachos are a really large, and fortunate army. MCP is just trying to establish itself. At this point, losing their capital will destroy them. You guys don’t really need Fjord, and I don’t even believe you need any more servers at all, but you are welcome to as many as you like. SSACP gave up Mittens because UMA already owned it and I intervened in the war to say that. I was the one who tried to talk Maz out of that anyway because I knew what we were doing was wrong. All of you felt it was wrong too. But suddenly it’s okay to go ahead and steal another army’s server. The only thing that changed between the SSACP situation and this one is the size of the army who owns the server. You say you aren’t taking advantage them because they are smaller than you, but I can’t see any reason that this should be different than the SSACP situation. I urge you to reconsider another server, and like I said, there are quite a few servers available from when we dropped some and you can take them all, no one will mind. The fact of the matter is, you will be taking away a server that means as much to MCP as White House and Blizzard mean to the Nachos, Snow Fort means to ACP, and Tuxedo means to RPF. Just please think about what you are doing.
Aber: I personally think ACP shouldn’t get involved in this war. I mean, we always get involved and then end up fighting our allies! Why risk it? Just don’t get involved xD.
Boomer’s Note: We’re not, but that doesn’t mean it’s not wrong, and I’m not going to do nothing…
Boomer’s Edit: Here is Person’s response to my argument, and my response back:
Person: NO. We are not taking MCP’s capital because we are bigger than them. I don’t know where the hell that idea started, because those were NOT our intentions. We felt that as being the 2nd largest army on Club Penguin, we should regain one of the servers that we gave up. We picked Fjord because of historic values. We would invade Fjord if MCP didn’t exist -.- ACP has 12 servers, and Nachos aren’t allowed to have 3? WOW.
Boomer: Isn’t this the same thing as when SSACP wanted Mittens back, except UMA already had it, so they couldn’t get it?
“We felt that as being the 2nd largest army on Club Penguin, we should regain one of the servers that we gave up.” – You just said that being a big army gives you that right, which is what you denied earlier 😐 .
“We picked Fjord because of historic values.” – And SSACP wanted Mittens because it was their old capital…
“We would invade Fjord if MCP didn’t exist -.- ACP has 12 servers, and Nachos aren’t allowed to have 3? WOW.” – You can have as many servers as you want, just pick ones that aren’t already owned by someone. ACP even has servers left over that we dropped, and I would be happy to give you any of those in exchange. You have to realize that MCP is an army that is trying to get started, and you are about to take away the server that means the most to them. Imagine that the Nachos were a new army and ACPdecided to reclaim Blizzard. I’m pretty sure you would be really pissed about that. Put yourself in their shoes. I’m sure it will help your image with the small armies here if you stand up for what is right…
In response to Shadow:
“ACP has left a part of a post saying we are taking Fjord back b/c were bigger than MCP. Wrong. This is also going against one of Boomer’s older policies. If any of you have looked at recent history, when SSACP came back, they wanted to take Mittens from UMA. Boomer agreed that SSACP should have Mittens. [not even close] I can compare our situation and that one. I see this as a Nacho growth oppurtunity right after a revival. So I think we should have our old server back.”
Boomer: I wanted Mittens, but I admitted that SSACP was not an army, and I acknowledged the fact that UMA owned Mittens. In case you weren’t paying attention, I was the one who called the war off once Maz quit because I was livid that he would risk SSACP over a server. I even blame myself for the fact that Maz quit because I threatened to take action against SSACP with ACP if he did not end the war.
In case you need a reminder…
“I was talking to Bat about negotiations for Mittens, and he said that UMA is planning to cut theirs servers to only Mittens and Frozen. This is the reason that UMAdoesn’t want to split Mittens, because they do not intendto expand their servers to make up for it, because in fact they are trying to reduce their servers. There is no room for negotiation here, so I am requesting that SSACP, as part of ACP, pick a new server. If you pull out of this war, ACP will give you whatever of our servers you want. Otherwise, ACP may consider taking action against SSACP because all of this is harming our alliance with UMA. ACP will always help SSACP as much as it can, but once conflict between allies takes place, we must do what we can to end the conflict.”
You can check all of that here:
http://ssacpsecretspyagencyofclubpenguin.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/nothings-convinced-me-yet/
You read that one entirely wrong…
If I can repeat myself, please pick a new server, think of what it will do to MCP…
Whoever this was:
“ANOTHER thing, is that ACP steals servers from smaller and medium armies all the time. Everytime they change their nations they do it. Do they have a land grant system set up for the servers they invaded? No. Did the Nachos set up one? Yes.”
Boomer: We haven’t changed our servers since we voted for Governors in September and we had them even before that. That is why we never have server conflicts…you only have two servers, and you just had to schedule a battle to control another army who was there. Also, we do have a land grant system, and there are many smaller allies of ACP that own our servers as well (we even gave a land grant to Snow Fort, which is our main server). You just established your land grant system today...
Next point, Person, I am really disappointed in you…
You made a claim for Fjord, andwhen you found out it was MCP’s capital, you laughed and said, ” Oh well! Once we turn it into Nacho territory, you can sell Nacho T-shirts if you’d like.” For one thing, it was foolish to think you could claim a server without checking if anyone owned it. But it’s another thing to completely disregard the fact that they already own it. Just because they are smaller than you, you think you can take them over? Soundfamiliar? Maybe Hitler invading Polandin WWII? That’s like Great Britain saying, “Hey, New Jersey would be a great place for a British vacation territory, so I think I’ll just take it because they can’t defend themselves against us…
Of course you can’t take New Jersey without dealing with the U.S., and Person, you are picking on one of our closest allies. And frankly, I’m not very happy…
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woof XD
2ed
3rd!
idk how person could oppose that. boomer, u r awesome!!
wow thats long
GO NACHOS!!!!! we have every right to own our old 3rd server
7th! lol
I THINK THE NACHOS DONT NEED ANY MORE SPACE AND I LIKE WHAT RAP IS SAYING.
Nachos should be able to expand but just not into other armie’s land.
and who ever keeps HACKING the polls STOP!!!
i think that if person starts the war A.C.P. should get involved i mean the nachos have been starting fights with A.C.P. and im starting to think that on there list were enemy number 1 and go to youtube and go to what the nachos think of ogalthorp it shows a sowrd stabbing throw olgalthrop and person smiling
I’d like to see someone respond to this, a part taken from my post on the WW site:
Well, can’t the Nachos vs. ACP thing ever stop. I mean Nachos are taking back Fjord, because 2 servers isn’t enough for the number 2. army. But of course ACP has to get involved, making a post and everything. And they say that MCP has the server, and don’t do it, blah blah. For one, MCP is such a rip-off. I mean if you haven’t noticed, there already was a MCP, the WW that didn’t want to merge. And also, MCP isn’t even an army in my opinion. That’s why they aren’t in my top ten. They are just a bunch of ACP who think it’s cool that they could get a high rank in this army. Oh Gawd…when will this end?
Guys! I’m in mcp and acp and taking mcp’s capitol server well is down right mean! Your just plain old greedy
Rock on acp AND MCP!
Well, there was actually an MCP which were the WW who didn’t want to merge! I agree with Wii. The MCP are just ACP guys who think they’re cool but really not. Besides, MCP WAS already taken and it is led by Gambler21777. (Idk the numbers)
boomer theres another war,ACP have been fighting the ninjas for 3 months now.i suggest you go on cp and try to make peace with them. please boomer,me,my friends,and many other solders are wasting their time fighting the ninjas just to keep cp in peace! do something boomer!
boomer theres another war,ACP have been fighting the ninjas for 3 months now.i suggest you go on cp and try to make peace with them. please boomer,me,my friends,and many other solders are wasting their time fighting the ninjas just to keep cp in peace! do something boomer! the ACP is counting on you!
kinda reminds me of ACP your army only your worse.
Wow I go away for about 2 hours and this whole post forms? O.o Anyway, as long as I can remember, the Nachos owned Fjord. I’m not going against ACP or anything, but when i first joined, a bunch of Nacho posts featured stuff about Fjord and that server, etc. They even had a Fjord site made! Yea yea, I know MCP is new-ish, but they have at least 100 soldiers. You know most little armies go a few MONTHS before getting 100 soldiers? Most new to new-ish armies go a long time without a server, or they say they own one even though they really don’t. All I’m saying is Nachos and MCP should split the server 50-50, or just give it up to MCP. Nachos are getting small armies left and right to merge into them. I (even though an official ACP soldier and very loyal) think ACP has too many servers. Why don’t we give up one or two to MCP (not one like Snow Fort, our main PB base) that we never use or talk about. Give ’em a good server, too. So all in all, here’s the main ideas.
1. Split Fjord 50-50 because of the undying love both armies have for this soldier.
2. Give Fjord to Nachos ( 🙄 This thing would be over a WHOLE lot quicker)
3. Give a few unused ACP servers to MCP, our close ally and give Fjord to Nachos. That way its an exchange.
A very seriously angry and confuzzled The Flapjack
MCP is not just a bunch of cool ACP guys that think that their cool. Their going to be one of the best armies out there. MCP has some very good soldiers on ACP. I can’t believe the Nachos don’t care if the MCP owns their old server. And is ACP staying out of the war?
Boomer!! the nachos turned on my squad of ACP soldiers! they joined the ninjas and abandoned us because, and i quote “the ninjas are larger in number, sir” and “should we ally with them, sir?” and “attack ACP!”. these are three quotes from our encounter with the ninjas. but after the battle, the ninjas and the ACP worked out an alliance deal. i think the ACP should really do this alliance. but, i guess the nachos are so power hungry that they will turn on their best allies just so they can win a war. u make the move, sir.
P.S.- those three quotes are from three different Nacho soldiers and their leader of their squad.
P.S.S.- me and shuffle360 were the leaders of the battle.
Shab, i agree so much.
Shab, don’t be the last of the international play boys.
person has sunk as low as death valley california
nonono even lower if that nacho wants to come to an army that is like acp’s little brother and take their capital server, they got another thing comin’. they know that mcp is small and has a lot of ppl that are more loyal to acp then to mcp so they think that they r weak
let me ask u: is that fair?
Shab, that edit rocks. I think a Nacho-ACP war would be fun *smirks*
Yeah. We should bring back the days of Zippy and Oagal.
And by “International Playboys”, I meant being dramatic. 😐
I mean, not meaningless wars, but wars for simple reason. Jeez, I must be hard to understand today.
The Nachos have reached the point where we need to expand our empire. Why didn’t we just keep our old servers instead of dropping them, you might ask? Well, the Nachos weren’t big enough to handle all those servers at that time, so we just decided to drop all of our servers except 2 servers until we got a little bit bigger. Now, that the Nachos are big enough to expand their empire. We decided to get one of our old servers back, Fjord. The Nachos have a had Fjord sense the beginning of nations: http://zippy500nachos.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/nacho-empire/ Fjord has so much value to us. From the Fjord Frenzy, the F
Here we are again. ACP trying to prove justice in Club Penguin. For the 1,001th time
What’s the point of justice? It’s not like there are people that swear. The JUSTICE part is with the autobans. That’s IT.
Not to mention that if you are trying to keep the peace, why are you having wars O_O
Your Honor, I see that this blog is having a testimony full of holes O_O
Phoenix-style 😀
If Nachos are to go that slow and attack a small army that hasn’t been around for more than 4 or 5 months than they deserve for ACP to side with MCP and take down the Nachos
The Nachos have reached the point where we need to expand our empire. Why didn’t we just keep our old servers instead of dropping them, you might ask? Well, the Nachos weren’t big enough to handle all those servers at that time, so we just decided to drop all of our servers except 2 servers until we got a little bit bigger. Now, that the Nachos are big enough to expand their empire. We decided to get one of our old servers back, Fjord. The Nachos have a had Fjord sense the beginning of nations: http://zippy500nachos.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/nacho-empire/ Fjord has so much value to us. From the Fjord Frenzy, the Fjord Rock, practice battles, ramdom fun things, and many more. So we decided we regain this valuable server the Nachos once had. Then we set up an invasion on Fjord to claim it again. We did know some smaller armies might have claimed Fjord, so once we claimed Fjord as ours, we would hand out land grants to these armies. Next thing we know, MCP declared war on us for going to invade their capital. We had no idea that it was their capital. How are we supposed to know it is theirs if they never go on it and if they never invaded it and claimed it has theirs (look through all their posts, nothing).
We have offered MCP land grants, but they have refused. We are still invading Fjord no matter what, just MCP happens to be in the way…
Oh yeah… why the hell does ACP always have to get involved in our business! What a great ally we got there 🙄
Butt out ACP… for once
Nacho Co-Leader
~Puckley~
Boomer: You need to realize that you are doing the same thing you criticized SSACP for…
i agree with boomer 100%
exept that this might tear acp apart little by little
WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR
Why does anybody care WHY? War is fun so naturaly we should never be without war on club penguin. 🙂 🙂
Also why do people think that losing breaks armies. Oh boo hoo if MCP loses then they lost a server. BIG DEAL. Winning and losing doesnt get you anything on club penguin but bragging rights. THATS THE FUN PART. 😆
Good luck to all my Nacho friends, 😉 If you win I will accept it. Unlike some people. I love fighting the Nachos Because they make you fight to win.
Also, if we lose guys. Dont say we won. It’s just lame to do that.
░▒▓yoghurt▓▒░
i agree with abercrombie!
listen to her!
O.o this posts got a lot of edits…
░▒▓Johny4▓▒░.
I will defend Fjord becouse MCP is a good friend to ACP and my army!
lol Who cares about MCP? Nachos are better then MCP. Why in the world would we choose MCP over Nachos? I want to war because its fun. 🙂
I think that we should go to war. Nice edit, shab, and nice comment, Person.
I think that we should go back to the old way.
Honestly, I agree with Shab. All we do is fight ourselves in practice battles. There is basically never a war anymore….. We should help MCP fight Nachos, because MCP is just getting started, and Nachos wat to take over their capital? Baloon, I care about MCP, and don’t you relize Nachos are just trying to ruin an army that’il be great in the future. When I joined, World War was almost to an end…. I fought w/ ACP, and had fun against the greatest armies of Clubpenguin.
-Thomas0270, ACP Brig. General
<em DOWN WITH THE NACHOS!
First of all, you guys need to stop talking with caps and italics. Thats reserved for leaders.
Secondly, none of you have seen REAL war. Barely any of it. It’s demanding and your bound to be on CP for about 2 hours a day.
~Sheila~
i agree sort of with boomer and shab they can take their server just cuz there bigger than them!! and wat happened to wen we did this just for fun with none of this big govenment stuf!!! i even remember wen there were battles only wen a to groups from difrent armys happen to meet!!! y r all these armys only based on servers?i remember wen we fought just so we could see whose better
lol u should know the real reason to dis war its funneh
The ACP always has to protect or intervene! You people cant even make an event without it dealing with us!!!!! Boomer you really are a horrible new leader 🙄
FROM: Soon to be nacho head, Jorgepil
P.S Why did the MCP decide to make their capital our old server? Sounds stupid to me 🙄
@thomas.
That’s exactly what i’ve been trying to say for so long but never found the right words. Bravo thomas. Bravo.
ACP? Please help the MCP. Can’t you see that the Nachos are rude, unkind and selfish? They are trying to take back Fjord from us! Our home! Please ACP! Can’t you see that the Nachos are selfish?
ACP? Please help the MCP. Can’t you see that the Nachos are rude, unkind and selfish? They are trying to take back Fjord from us! Our home! Please ACP! Can’t you see that the Nachos are being selfish?
double post alert 🙄
Damn, Boomer figured out my plan to take over New Jersey. 😆
Ok, i agree with Shab. CLub penguin armies have turned into club penguin governments, and thats taking away what Oaglethorp made this army for. To have wars. to have fun. Not to let CP politics rule CP armies. I say we fight this war, i dont care what side, to have FUN!
Lol, i also agree with Person’s comment. War with nachos would be fun! The two biggest armies in club penguin, going at it! And why does everyone think CP wars are such a big deal? Its not like were going to get shot in a battle. I say we should also have no ally wars. EVER. allies ruin it all… When ever allies get involved in CP wars, it always ends up somehow as peace is declared and hundreds of soldiers dissappointed
Example: “The Great Confusion” as person put it xD
Man thats alot of edits. I quit the nachos like two days ago or yesterday. Wait yesterday.
Aber, you ARE right, but we need war. Like, now. Us little people that have no other jobs are getting BORED. Wait, I rephrase. We ARE bored.
~~~Fox~~~
Uh, I think we should just go to war (or have a poll over who wants to fight and who doesn’t) or let the people decide,only problem is that MCP and the Nachos are our allies, so, if we help the nachos, MCP might not exist without Fjord, If we help MCP, giving them a better chance of winning, they might ( I said might) go too far and try to take white house or Blizzard, if we stay out of it, the Nachos are most likley to eliminate MCP and take back Fjord again. To be honest, MCP could also if they win, the Nachos might turn thier cat tanks on us and attack us, but also if we help the nachos, two giant empires vs. a soon-to-be huge army,ALSO if we back off, truley, I think backing off is like if you go to war with out a weapon, what are you supposed to do?
Hopefully this won’t end up like WW1 where MCP and Nachos just let a wide variety of different armies join in and take their fight….If I knew which were more surbian, Bosnian, and German-ish then I would say who would be who (probably not :s )
@Seanehawke. I know. I didn’t agree w/ you until now.
@ Fox. We’re bored… you’re right.
@Slosh. If we go to war, I think we should help MCP.
-Thomas0270, ACP Brig. general
It also might be WW2 kinda…
Nachos=Germany (Though you guys arent THAT evil)
Poland=MCP
Britian=(Cause France isnt a thing like anyone im descriding, mainly cause no ones as poor as they are in military)ACP
Germany expands its land and invades Poland Britian promised to help Poland in its time of need (which is now) and goes to war with Germany….I said kinda
Alright lemme get this straight.
A. Jungle has all our pics?
B. Jungle, HOW THE FICK (thats not a typo) DID YOU GET MY PIC?
C. Why’d you take my 6th grade one? I look so bad in that one!
D. For proof, what shirt am I wearing in that picture?
E. This is a problem.
And PS Slosh we’re more like the US, because the US tried to stay out of it (as we usually do) but got dragged in 😉
Im not interveining with boomer and everyone else im just going to agree with shabs edits. I remember those old fun wars even though I wasnt a part of acp at the time. I would love to have something fun like a war and have fun like that
Boomer stay out of the Nachos way! We should resolve this peacefully!
-From Jorgepil of the Nachos
Guys lets solve it logicly. If MCP loses its over for them. If Nachos loses they will take another soldiers.
Its a WIN-WIN for Nachos and a WIN-LOSE for MCP!
I meant server not soldiers!
Hey Boomer don’t worry about standing up for a small army… it proves you have much more kindness and better leadership than person and the nachos.
❗ shab is correct we all loved it when he declared war. ❗ why did he get kicked by the senate it is fun to have wari say we have a tournament EVERY MONTH if not EVERY 2 WEEKS!
If you like war then click here(this army just started):
http://theclubpenguinservicecorps.wordpress.com/
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Reply To Ankitas Edit:
Your Totally right! I agree with you %100. Nachos dropped fjored server, and then mcp claimed it… but MCP DIDNT INVADE THE SERVER. Is the problem…so really its not mcp either. So right now its technicly (i spelt it wrong) the battle of Fjord. Since Nachos dropped the server and want it back…and mcp really just claimed it and didnt officially invaded it. So Im interested whats gonna happen…
I definitly Agree.
if we keep fighting with ourselves, we might break out into a civil war:(
Wow, that’s long… but we all know shab’s right….
“Rapidy: My username on ACP chat is ░▒▓Rapidy▓▒░.”
Wow that was random of you xD in the middle of a big disscussion. 😆
lol
Im ready for the big battle
READY FOR BATTLE
Lets go ACP! ACP! ACP! ACP! ACP!
ya i kicked butt today !! and hads lots of fun ! im a new member !! what war is next and how do you get prmoted ? from,
tj8penguin