Message from Shab:
Oagal please add me as editor to the site. Please don’t make me lower than editor. I should be able to comment on the posts and be equal to Jedi on the site. The idea is that we are equal leaders, so I would like to be able to post as well.
Oagal I’m sorry for trying to start a rebellion. I’m also sorry for taking you off of the acp site and not keeping you as admin. The reason I took you off was because you would not listen to me. I did not want to take mammoth but you would not let me be a leader. I wasn’t concidered a leader because I had no say in what actions Acp would take. I started a rebellion because I was fired by a retired leader because of my opinions.
Everytime something is going good you want to change it which is getting annoying. No one hated me as the only leader but you had to change that. No one complained about Mammoth being neutral but you had to try and change that. You even said that the jedi and me as equal leaders was working really good but you tried to change that. Jedi and me are the leaders with boomer as our meditator so you can suggest actions to take but please don’t try to force them onto us.
Ok, first of all, stop criticizing Jedi. If we are going to fix this mess we call an army, we need your support, not your criticism. Jedi please stay in ACP, you have much more to do to help this army. Together, we will get ACP back on track.
Ok, on to a positive note, we have a couple ideas for what we should do to make the smoothest and quickest transition possible to get ACP on track again. Here are some ideas in the order I heard them. None of these are final, we will be discussing them amongst ourselves soon.
Oagalthorp’s Solution:
- Boomer, Shab, and Jedi will all be leaders
- Boomer will become the administrator of leader decisions when an argument arises
Boomer’s Solution:
Specifics:
- Boomer, Shab, and Jedi will all be leaders
- Boomer will become the mediator of leader decisions when an argument arises
- Shab and Jedi would be Leaders of the two halves of ACP; one would control military operations, and the other would run the DRACP, Boomer would deal with general duties and both leadership positions when needed
Suggestions:
- Shab for Leader of the military because he has spent a lot of time with ranks under Kg and as Leader himself, and was also in charge of setting up practice battles before the war
- Jedi would be the President of the DRACP because she shows excellent organizational ability through her proposed government plan, and was already handling these matters before the war
- Boomer would make sure that everyone is doing their job and could help with either military or government duties when needed
Benefits:
- Having Shab and Jedi operating in specific, specialized areas of ACP’s leadership roles would make it easier for each to focus on their task
- It would make ACP more efficient because we would not have to worry about which leader would do what
- It would minimize arguments and bad feelings because neither would have to share a specific power, or have more power than the other
Footnote:
- I also still think that Oagal and Shab should apologize to each other and ACP so we can get this reconstruction started on a positive note
Jedimaster17’s Plan for First Action:
- Plan a meeting between the leaders
- Take a poll, and decide what form fits us best
- Shab apologizes to Oagal, and tries to work out a suitable agreement
- Oagalthorp adds Shab to the site, as an editor at least, and goes to speak to Shab
- Flag Officers (Rear admiral to Field Commander) try to keep order, and don’t assume authority; if rebellions are going on, report them as soon as possible, and try to set the record straight if any argument about ACP occurs
- Field Officers (Lieutenant to Brigadier) try to support higher officers and leaders, don’t assume authority, try to set the record straight, and report any conflicts ASAP
- Non-Commissioned Officers (Unranked to Warrant Officers) try to support higher officers and leaders, don’t assume authority, and report any conflicts ASAP
- All Ranks must act with dignity and honor among our former enemies, treat them with respect, and be supportive
Jedimaster17’s Long-Term Solution:
- Jedimaster17 is ACP President, and retains Co_Leader position in ACP Millitary.
- Shab is Millitary Leader.
- Boomer, will return to his old duties, and serve as a mediator in case of a crisis. (Same power as a leader, but will only interfere with the running of the Government/army if there is a problem.
- All leaders are admins.
- After the millitary leader (Shab), retires there will be Elections from Field Commander up being able to run.
- ACP decides leader. Not Oagal, unless ACP is down in the dumps.
- I don’t want Boomer to have power over Shab or I. Flat out. Boomer has equvilant power, and can help solve crisis, but he has no control over me. This is my main condition. He can assist,but the main running of thearmy goes to Shab and myself. Look, I respect Boomer, but we are what we are.
- We have embassies, in all armies. (Ambassadors, to prevent a similar situation as mammoth)
- Anything else necessary.
Rapidy’s Solution:
- ACP holds leader elections again to see who should be leader (field commander and up can run)
- ACP creates an ammendment that we have leader elections every four to six months.
- Shaboomboom apologizes to Oagalthorp, visa versa.
- ACP elects one person to be an administrator when problems like this arrive.
- Then to finish off the problem, we have a war with someone
Shaboomboom’s Solution:
- Boomer, Shab, and Jedi will all be leaders
- Boomer will become the mediator of leader decisions when an argument arises
- Shab and Jedi would be Leaders of the two halves of ACP; one would control military operations, and the other would run the DRACP, Boomer would deal with general duties and both leadership positions when needed
- When Boomer, Shab, or Jedi retire then they can either decide to pick their successor or they can chose to have elections.
Suggestions:
- Shab is Military Leader
- He is Vice-President
- He has to power to call up an article or idea made by jedi that is voted on by top senators
- He is Chat Owner
- He is an Admin on the Acp Site
- Ankita is President
- She is Co-Leader in Military
- She is an Admin on the Acp Site
- Boomer is meditator
- He is Co-leader of the Army and Vice-President
- When there is an arguement or a tie between Shab and Jedi then he has the final say
- He is Admin on the Acp Site
Footnote:
I like Boomer’s and Jedi’s but she has some problems with hers –
- She says that boomer will be the mediator but also says that he has no power over herself or me. Instead it should be that he has power over us when he has to be a meditator
- The Leader should pick if they want elections or if they want to pick their successor themselves. I know Acp is trying to be more democratic but the popular person isnt always the best leader
About Rap’s Plan:
- Elections were what started this whole thing and we dont have time for them [Boomer Edit: We need a solution now, not weeks from now]
Once again, these are just ideas, and we are planning a meeting to create the best possible solution for ACP. Any other editors can add their ideas to this post as well, but please do not post over this just yet. Thank you for your patience while we work this out.
Boomer
P.S.~Oagal can you add Shab back to the site?
I’m not sure if this even works, it doesn’t even concern ACP (hopefully) but vote for batista1822.Filed under: ACP |
Don’t think that that will solve our problem. Jedi shouldn’t even be a leader.
Boomer: I disagree, but in order for all of this to work, we need a comprehensive plan.
Hey, boomer, Im minister of defense, arent i?
Boomer: I’m not sure.
You disagree? Look around you. Uprising, revolts, rebellions everywhere. Why? Because of all this crap Jedi is starting.
Let’s see how things go when all this is settled. 😉
Boomer: We will eventually 🙂
Man, you should restore things ppl, and ill help, ive good a pretty good project
Boomer: Any help is welcomed. Feel free to tell us any suggestions you may have.
GO boomer
Boomer: Lol, thanks for your support 🙂
This seems like it would work. now if everyone stopped quitting or threatening to quit maybe we could get back on track
Boomer: I agree.
I dont think that ACP should be fighting over whos leader if we want a new leader we might as well have re elections so at least we wont be fighting over everything and the person that gets second will become the third in command to help the leader the leader who wins will have a running mate and the running mate will be second in command
I like Boomer being admin
Boomer, Thats one brilliant post. I think boomers idea of shab being military and boomer organising the site is a FANTASTIC idea!!! and jedi is president.
ONE OF THE BEST IDEAS IN CP!!!
Boomer: Thanks Head! I put a lot of time into working it out.
Well I am anything but surprised with these suggestions for restoring the ACP. I am not surprised because each one of you put yourself in a high if not the highest rank. I say we have a entire new election. But with exceptions. Boomer, Shab, and Jedi get to each lead one division : navy, air force and the other one.
They will be the three highest ranks. Equal in power. And to pass or decide on a war 2/3 must agree and the one who is against MUST still support the war or argument with their army.
After that each leader will pick a back – up leader in case of emergency. (incase you cant make a war or what not) AND OAGAL IS ALLOWED ON WHEN EVER HE WANTS . . . geez this is getting out of hand… he didnt even do anything besides assure that everyone is satisfied in the ACP.
Anyway those 6 people will be the highest ranked. Then there will be special ranks like (The FUn person (although i suggest a more casual name; The Schedule Person (keeps track of everything); Negotiator (negotiates with other armies); DRACP leader; Keep the CP updates guy; Make a HEAD mod on chat who is on often and trustable; A person in charge of updating everything on site; and ofc ourse more but thats all i can think of for now.
Anyway I like my idea best this iwll by far settle everything. Although the chances of this going into action is not highly unlikely. . . EXTREMELY unlikely since it includes equality, and cooperation everyone will just shoot it down like always.
And on the other hand, since were not goin wit mine just let Boomer rule he is easily the most mature and non-power hungry then the rest.
Go Boomer! Without you the ACP would keep on going down hill. Your efforts are just what the ACP needs to get back on its feet.
Boomer: Thanks Nate! I hope that this is a group effort as well, or this probably won’t get off the ground.
THIS IS NOT MEET THE PRESS OR CNN WE NEED TO FIND OUT A WAY TO GET OUT THESE HARD TIMES WE HAVE GO THREW THESE HARD TIMES BEFORE SO WHAT DO U THINK THAT WE CANT MAKE IT NOW wow i sould ilke one of those ppl in the on cnn ! *lowers acp flag in shame*
JEDBOOMER GET IT BEAT THAT SHABOOMER
HEY HOW BOUT U LET THE TROOPS PICK THE SOLUTIONS!!!!!!! NOT THE HIGH RANKED OFFERS COME ON LET THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE BE HEARD!
finally we’re getting somewhere! go Boomer!
Boomer: Yes, I hope we can make some progress from all this.
I had a really good idea…correction BEST idea. Well atleast in my opinion. But it took a while to type up and then it didnt post!! SO ill try again later
http://ninjasrntus.wordpress.com/
Rapidy: K wadler, I know you from SSACP. Please don’t spam here.
Boomer: Hey K Wadler!! I saw you on CP for the first time in months!
STOP SPAMING
IM AMBASSADOR KING IM A AMBASSADOR
This will indead help us.
Kinda makes sense, but you are giving Boomer too much power. He basically has the ability to do anything he wants, without being questioned.
Plus, what is a president going to do? Sit there?
Boomer: I wouldn’t have any power except to break arguments. Shab and Jedi would be doing everything they were before (Military and DRACP), so I don’t really see where you’re coming from…
ice cream is delicious.
yes, that had nothing to do with the post. but i have no comment.
whoa… shaboomer? That’s hilarious! almost as funny as vote yesyes to nono!
Boomer: Lol, yeah me and Shab came up with that in February-March-ish. We even have a joint penguin with that name 😛
Didnt I tell ACP to stop critcizing Ankita. Well, Boomer like I said, The Boomer-Ctar-Ankita combination is great. And the only way we can is if we all give our support behind Ankita and Boomer. YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
Boomer: Your opinions have been very accurate recently, and I think many people agree with you.
Boomer your idea is a better idea and sulotion to this problem.
Boomer: Thanks Chapa! Any input we can get will be very helpful.
CAN SOMEONE FREAKING UNBAN ME ON CHAT!
Boomer: I will if I see you. Why were you banned to begin with?
Ankita, plz unban me!
Jedi + boomer + shab + Oagal + cream puffs = happy acp!
I like the ideas guys. this could realy work.
Eat bacon! reports show that eating bacon can make you live longer!
Boomer: Hopefully your first statement is more accurate than your second 😉
once i get on my cpu (im logged in on my Wii now) I will post my solutions.
Boomer: Sounds good.
We need one leader, like Jedi said in her long term plan.
Boomer: Idk, one single leader has failed pretty miserably recently…
We should have leader elections ever 4 or 6 months. And there is no limit to how long you can serve as leader.
Boomer: That’s not a bad idea. Then we can get some fresh blood in there every now and then. We’ll keep that in mind.
Nah, fixed terms don’t work.
A: Most people are only here a year and a bit…
B: If it is like 6 months for a term, then it’s too long and if someone is doing poorly as a leader, it will take many extra months to remove them. On the other hand, it will waste too much energy and time to have elections more regularly than that.
C: Someone will want to change the organizing system again in a few months, which is annoying
D: You don’t want to get eaten up by elections when you could be having practice battles.
i like jimmr’s idea of having cream puffs to make us a happy ACP.
Ok, I’ll get serious now.
Im going with oagal’s plan
I like Jedi’s plan and Rapidy’s plan.
But the war better not mess us up again XD!
cool
i have another suggestion for people who dont like Boomer (i am not one of these people). we could have Boomer remain co-leader but if a major argument arises, he will become leader until we settle out the argument. just a suggestion.
Boomer: That’s basically what my plan is, but it could be modified to be more widely acceptable.
K WADLER!!! GO TO ACP CHAT WE HAVE SOO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON 😀
Boomer: Please come on chat, it would be great to talk again!
wow boomer actually liked my idea… sweet! and head, hi-five on chat! u rooock!
is EVERYONE allowed to attend the meeting?
Rapidy: The people in charge of the meeting have yet to come up to a decision. We will be sure to get back to you as soon as possible with a responce.
Nice Boomer 😀 and I think I do have some 💡 s, but I’m getting a new comp 🙂 so I wont be on for I guess the next two days I think. 🙁 Just tellin u guys in advance and my 💡 is on mostly on tactics, stratigys, and formations. So when this whole Dark Age for the ACP (If I can call it that 😛 ) is over I’de like to show them to u or someone else.Unless u want to see them sooner.
AGAIN GOOD JOB BOOMER AND EVERYONE IN THE ACP
Boomer: Sure, I look forward to seeing them. Thanks for the comments!
Boomer, I need you to unban me on chat. Kyle Cease banned me for arguing with him. What a douche!
Boomer: Ok, I have already demodded him (no one mod him), and I’ll unban you as soon as I can.
Why cant I post . . .srry if this does post i have a really good solution seriosly
Boomer: Ok, you can comment it if you want.
Boomer, last time i was on chat Kyle was a mod. Rap, u spelled response wrong.
Boomer: Ik, but I demodded him.
Ok So…. I honestly think this is by far the best solution anyone has brought to the table yet.
First we bring bac the Navy, The Air Force, and the other one (srry I forgot) Boomer Shab and Jedi each rule one. Simple But there will be rules to make a decision … i suggest atleast 2 of you 3 have to agree. And even if that department is against it they must aid and support their army in war or in opinion.
With that I suggest new ranks. Ranks WITHIN departments I suggest about 5 high ranks for each department so basically there will be 15 high ranked in total. There will be new leaders and high ranks if needed every three months. Then the others through hard work get moved up and one gets moved down.
Good luck and since this idea (which is clearly best) will not get chosen since it involves way “too much” equality and cooperation, I would have to go wit boomer. I say let boomer lead the whole thing. He is the most mature and least power hungry.
Boomer: That’s not a bad idea. We’ll consider it, but I would say even if we don’t use all of it, we would use at least part of this for organizing the government, ranks, etc. Thanks for your suggestion and support.
As rapidy deleted my comment i will say it again
You just want to be leader rapidy. Thats why you suggested that idea 🙄
Boomer: I’m not sure that’s any or all of it, but the thing that complicates an election is one of two things:
1. It takes too long; we need an immediate solution
2. It divides the army because an election will only allow for one single winner, and everyone else loses. We believe that if we organize this correctly, everyone can win.
🙄 Puh-leeze.
@ ACP:
I am sooo freaking sorry!!!!
My little brother is rlly sick and I can’t get on that much until he gets better. 😥
Boomer: Don’t worry, take some time off if you need it. Family is more important than any CP event.
Guys i have an idea: if every one is fighting over this let the troops decide who the heck is winning the debate with a poll.
2 there should be a poll for each new leader poll: is the ruler being tyranny answers yes or no. if they are they shall be removed ASAP.
3 if ACP is under major crisis such as civil wars it shall be shut down temporarily as the leassers of this civil war work it out
4 there should be Multiple leaders.
5 Promo day comes every week or 2(i just wanted that heh)
Well I hope the leaders can figure this out or else ACP might fall. I’m sorry if I sound negative here, but that’s a fact.
Boomer: I agree, ACP is in a weakened state at the moment, so we must make sure we get things turned around quickly.
I think elections dont choose who is truly best for the job. An election is a popularity contest, and in the bad way. People just befriend each othe ron chat and WA LAH you are the leader of ACP now? doesnt sound fair. I mean there really isnt a truly FAIR way to elect the leader I mean even if the leader gets to choose who to success him there will be some favortism but I prefer that way over elections.
Here are a few ideas I have for this situation. Please don’t treat me like a n00b if you don’t like them.
1. We need to settle all of the disputes between the leaders and higher ranked officers. There is no way we will survive if we are fighting among ourselves. Little disputes can cause civil wars.
2. We need to figure out a new system of government. Obviously our current government isn’t working out. I think we should have one leader, but we should also have senators and other officials to support him.
3. We need to earn the respect of the other major armies. The failed invasions on Mammoth were humiliating to the ACP. If you’ve been in the ACP for as long as I have, you should know that Mammoth is rightfully ours. We were the first ones to claim it, and we should continue to make efforts to take it back until we succede.
4. Oagalthorp needs to make a decision. I respect Oagal for founding the ACP, but he needs to decide if he wants to come back, or leave. There shouldn’t be any middle ground.
Boomer: I agree with 1 thru 3, but 4 is a bit complicated. I do respect Oagal’s opinions as long as he does not take control without permission. We will work out a balance for that.
listen TO MY SOLUTIONS IM A AMBASSADOR ok give higher ranks thats number one 2.have more meetings and have more practice wars and gives servers to smaller armies
O ONE MORE THING PPL PLZ STOP SAYING NOObs AND PREEPS if i spelled wrong dont hate i need to work on my typing BUT PLZ STOP SAYING THAT
YES WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING NOT ON CHAT BUT ON CLUB PENGUIN WHO EVER THINKS WE SOULD HAVE A MEETING SAY I
EDITED! Personal content involved.
Oagalthorp: Leave me alone, stalker.
EDIT! Same as before.
Oagalthorp: I said stop. 🙄
hey does anyone have something to say about my ideas!!!
:'(
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THIS IS CONFUSING!!!!!!!
soo is shab leader now?
on acp shat you said that shab was not a leader (that was on sunday second war)
Anyways aren’t non-members allowed to be ninjas(if not then the cp team are @$$ plurial).
Boomer: From what I’ve heard, I’m the temporary leader until we can meet to organize things.
Thank you so much, Boomer. Your such a kind person. 🙂
Boomer: Np Sheila. Hope your brother gets better soon.
Well yeah, Boomer, you have a point there. It needs to be 2 leaders who agree, though.
Boomer: Yes, agreement and co-operation will be key.
I saw shabs leader she won oagal has to leave boomer and jedi are co leaders
*sigh* ACP is going up in flames-Hidude45
Boomer: Not for long…I have a fire extinguisher 😛
-.- Says you.
-sigh- it’s November. I think this was the omnth when I first looked at the ACP site. the 1st post was about Oagal quitting. This month makes me miss the old days. Old, simple days.
-Dee
Boomer: Yes, I do miss being a regular soldier back in my early days. A lot has changed since then, but ACP shall remain strong.
What about the other governer elections?
Don’t forget, vote Miroos for Icicle!
Boomer: As soon as we get things together, we’ll get back to them.
please do vote Bfan212 for icicle I will do what I am told and I respect Miroos as a wonderful candidate but I just might have the better ideas like how about more servers and strong servers at that Icicle is a deent sized server
Vote Bfan212 for governer of Icicle
idk wat im running 4 anymore XD
DRACP was temporarely suspended because of the lack of wars and battles.